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February 10, 2011

Facilitator Posts

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Wednesday Audio Recording
Stephen Downes, CCK11, February 9, 2011.

We had an excellent discussion with Neil Selwyn on social networks and education. Also: here's a summary of some of the comments, and links to Neil's papers as well.
Enclosure: files/audio/cck11_09February11.mp3 Size: 15357580 bytes, type: audio/mpeg [Comment]

New Discussion Threads

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The difference between learning and teaching
Stephen Downes, 1216 - Con sabor educativo, February 10, 2011.

Actually, I think that 'studying' or 'practicing' are like eating. These are activities we so. The word 'learning' is a success-term. It refers to the result. Although we say "I am learning to drive" we really mean "I am practicing how to drive." If we keep practicing but get no better, it becomes foolish to say "I am 'learning' to drive." To say 'I am learning' is like saying 'I am becoming stronger'. This is something 'studying' can help with, the way 'eating' can help with becoming stronger. But there are other factors involved. There are things you can't control. Though the result is desired and expected, it is not what you are *doing*, it is what you are *hoping* [Comment]

The Nature vs Nurture debate
Stephen Downes, 1224 - Complex Learning, February 10, 2011.

I think that the way the 'nature versus nurture' debate is expanded sheds some light on the distinction between connectivism and other theories. First of all, though, I want to reshape this distinction. The phrase 'nature' versus 'nurture' suggests two possibilities: you either know it innately, genertically; or, you're taught. Really, I think, the difference is between things you 'know' innately and things you learn by experiences. What skills do we know instinctively, and what skills do we need to practice? Viewed this way, I think that a great deal of connectivism falls into the 'nurture' or 'experience' camp. That is to say, connectivism suggests that we start with a generally unshaped network of connections, and experience shapes that network. Where I think it differs with more recent theories is in *how* this reshaping through experience occurs. The basic learning mechanisms - the formation of or breaking of connections - .... [Comment]

Comments

These are individual comments posted today to the discussion threads (for new discussion threads, see the list above).

Scott Johnson, Re: Dialogues (help!), It seems my comment about Connectivists fired up ....
veronica, No complaints whatsoever, This is my first MOOC and I can't be ....
aliciaparr, Re: Taxonomy of Learning Theories « E-Learning Provocateur, In response to Theodore Hoppe's comment, "....
Ken Anderson, Re: Dialogues (help!), >I call the response "passive-aggressive ....
Scott Johnson, Re: Dialogues (help!), My original comments were not meant to offend, ....
zapotepetl, Re: Dialogues (help!), On tools: Stephen Downes sais: "What is the ....
vtaylor, Yes, but..., Actually, I am starting to really like this new ....
Stephen Downes, Re: Dialogues (help!), > Was this last comment really called for? I don&....
Ken Anderson, Re: Dialogues (help!), Like you, I think it is important to state one&#....
Stephen Downes, Re: Dialogues (help!), > My questions are not intended to offend. I ....
ken427, Re: Dialogues (help!), Hmmm. So the emphasis on 'distributed' ....

Participants' Blog Posts

This is a list of the blog posts mentioning the CCK11 keyword or tag harvested from the list of blogs submitted by participants.
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CCK11 Sensemaking in education and learning
suifaijohnmak, Suifaijohnmak's Weblog
Sensemaking: A term that sounds familiar but often difficult to grapple in education and learning.  In essence, Sensemaking is the process by which people give meaning to experience. As mentioned here in wikipedia: In one application, sensemaking is approached as the … Continue reading → [Link] 2011-02-10T02:02:10 [Comment]

What Makes Connectivism Unique? #cck11
jaapsoft2, connectiv
Just a small post today. My question is a question about this question: What Makes Connectivism Unique?, Why this question? Why should a — ism be Unique? Or is it important to be unique?  Of course differences are visible between different theories, that is why they are different. I wonder why this question did connect itself [...] [Link] 2011-02-09T22:25:23 [Comment]

A Visit From Socrates: Social Media & Education…Reasons 2B Fearful #CCK11 #ELTchat #edchat
profesorbaker, Profesorbaker's Blog
Today we were treated to the Socratic Method by Neil Selwyn. Here’s how Wikipedia describes it: “The Socratic method (or Method of Elenchus or Socratic Debate), named after the Classical Greek philosopher Socrates, is a form of inquiry and debate … Continue reading → [Link] 2011-02-10T00:25:54 [Comment]

Rabisco #cck11
T, lúcidaTranslúcida #CCK11
Não estou perdida!O tempo escapou por entre os dedos!Ou escrevi no lugar errado!Escrevi para a @daisygrisolia quando deveria preencher este espaço aqui!e outras coisas mais...Estava  a comentar sobre o MOOC #cck11 e esclarecia a mim mesma, endereçando a outra pessoa que "não se pode esquecer que o debate é válido, que algo incide realmente via cerebral com a aquisição rápida de pensar o computador e as redes sociais", Lógico que algo conduz para as leituras sobre Conectivismo..... [Link] 2011-02-09T21:46:00 [Comment]

Arguing for the end of formal schools and universities CCK11
davidjennings, Library of Aethers
In the elluminate session this evening, Neil Selwyn said he was shocked by how many educational technologists argue for the end of formal schools and universities — when so many people in the world are clamouring for access to this kind of learning — especially when the educational technologists themselves have benefited from formal education. [...] [Link] 2011-02-09T21:32:23 [Comment]

Digital Scholarship - does it quack like a duck?
AK, Multilitteratus Incognitus
OK, so I finally was able to listen to the digital scholarship podcast for CCK11 the other day (man, I cranked those speakers up quite high in some spots!) and I have to say that it was quite interesting (click here for MP3 link). I have to say that the concept of digital scholarship isn't new or alien to me, having listened to Dan, Tom and Mills on digital campus for the last few years (great podcast by the way, you should subscribe to if if you don't already).In any case, what .... [Link] 2011-02-09T22:27:00 [Comment]

L’entre-soi (CCK11/3)
christine-vaufrey, Le blog de Christine Vaufrey
Depuis quelques semaines, je me lasse des conversations convenues autour de l’usage des technologies de l’information et de la communication en éducation et, plus largement, qui doivent changer nos vies à tous les niveaux : fait politique, voisinage, commerce, culture, etc. Non que le sujet soit épuisé (comment pourrait-il l’être, compte-tenu de la rapidité d’évolution des [...] [Link] 2011-02-09T20:56:22 [Comment]

Formalism in CCK11
keith.hamon@gmail.com (keith.hamon), Communications & Society
[Link] 2011-02-09T21:22:00 [Comment]

[[CCK11]]:Switch VS Hard Disk
Aboluay, Aboluay's (Anas) Musings
Using computer analogies, this post outlines 2 things: what we need to do to be effective in a connectivist environment and why traditional education and connectivism will never [Link] 2011-02-09T19:22:51 [Comment]

Chat Transcript from Week4 of #CCK11
J.G. Chesney, Sparks & Flashes
Although I haven't had time to be more engaged in #CCK11 the past three weeks as work and Internet activism have kept me hopping, I was finally able to attend live for the first time, the Wednesday Elluminate session. Neil Selwyn spoke on: "Social media and education: reasons to be fearful?" In the spirit of debate, I congratulate Neil on bringing to the table the articulation of viewpoints that certainly lead to much further discussion. I do feel that considering his points are .... [Link] 2011-02-09T18:40:00 [Comment]

Social Media & Education - Reasons to be Fearful by Neil Selwyn (CCK11 live chat)
hamtra@gmail.com (Tracy Parish), Discovery Through eLearning
Social media and technology in education is exciting to be passionate about, but we need to also be caution and critical of some of the elements that this can bring the the teaching world. Paper by Neil Neil's publication page 4 areas to be concerned about (talking points that are being considered "out there") Jonas Backelin: Fearful vs. excited 1 - Acknowledging the ideological nature of social media and education nothing is cut and dry there are not just technical issues to consider .... [Link] 2011-02-09T18:02:00 [Comment]

A Letter For Thomas: From Elise in Response to Connectivism: A Theory of Learning for A Digital Age #CCK11 #ELTchat
profesorbaker, Profesorbaker's Blog
2 Responses to Connectivism: A Theory of Learning for a Digital Age: A Letter For Elise #CCK11 #ELTChat ailsa says: February 9, 2011 at 12:06 pm Do you recall a letter written to Carl Rogers by Rollo May? It too … Continue reading → [Link] 2011-02-09T12:15:16 [Comment]

Twitter Posts

If you use the CCK11 tag on Twitter, your Twitter posts will be collected and listed here (note that harvesting only started Friday morning).

@smoky_stu (Stuart) tweeted: Read The smoky_stu Daily on http://t.co/3WiA1ln #edtech #edchat #yam #NSWDET #teachers #education #cck11 2011-02-10T12:00:27

@idotter (Marc Widmer) tweeted: @zaidlearn i'm not really sure, if you can compare #connectivism with other learning theories ... #cck11 2011-02-10T11:03:22

@hrealities (Julia Pichler) tweeted: WikiLeaks_Response_v6 http://t.co/hy1ot8B #cck11 good to keep a view on both sides of the power of data analyzing. #wikileaks #createbabel 2011-02-10T10:54:26

@Gordon_L (Gordon_L) tweeted: #cck11 RT @widged: Nice page on social constructivism on Moodle - http://docs.moodle.org/en/Pedagogy 2011-02-10T10:00:41

@agentjohnson (Mike Johnson) tweeted: RT @gsiemens: Recording from Neil Selwyn's presentation on social media and education: http://bit.ly/fjbKVi #cck11 2011-02-10T09:30:35

@pipcleaves (Phillippa Cleaves) tweeted: #cck11 Mooc is out! http://bit.ly/g0AhRY ▸ Top stories today via @tonyjohnson @gordon_l @hrealities @profesorbaker 2011-02-10T09:04:31

@Gordon_L (Gordon_L) tweeted: "Don't lecture me" (with Twitter track) - Donald Clark; enjoyed this immensely! http://bit.ly/dIvGhA #cck11 2011-02-10T08:28:50

@JaapSoft (Jaap Bosman) tweeted: #cck11 http://bit.ly/gMzlBr upodated blogpost on a question about the value of connectivism 2011-02-10T07:04:30

@CCK11Feeds (CCK11 Feeds) tweeted: Suifaijohnmak's Weblog #CCK11 Sensemaking in education and learning: http://t.co/29iZMyt: Suifaijohnmak's ... http://bit.ly/icyVJG 2011-02-10T04:34:44

@CCK11Feeds (CCK11 Feeds) tweeted: RT @ShellTerrell: via @profesortbaker A Visit From Socrates: Social Media & Education…Reasons 2B Fearful #CCK11 ... http://bit.ly/gsFZ45 2011-02-10T04:34:44

@CCK11Feeds (CCK11 Feeds) tweeted: Grabacion de la presentación en #CCK11 de Neil Selwyn Sobre Medios de Comunicación y Educación social. http://bi... http://bit.ly/gimiNT 2011-02-10T04:34:44

@CCK11Feeds (CCK11 Feeds) tweeted: A Visit From Socrates: Social Media & Education…Reasons 2B Fearful #CCK11 #ELTchat #edchat http://nblo.gs/e5Upu:... http://bit.ly/g4W8zo 2011-02-10T04:34:43

@CCK11Feeds (CCK11 Feeds) tweeted: A Visit From Socrates: Social Media & Education…Reasons 2B Fearful #CCK11 #ELTchat #edchat http://nblo.gs/e5Upu:... http://bit.ly/eAoF4r 2011-02-10T04:34:43

@click4ESOL (Joanna Norton ) tweeted: RT @profesorbaker: Discovery Through eLearning: Social Media & Education - Reasons 2B Fearful by Neil Selwyn (CCK11 live chat) http://t.co/lbUTc9S via @hamtra 2011-02-10T02:33:37

@profesorbaker (Thomas Baker) tweeted: Discovery Through eLearning: Social Media & Education - Reasons 2B Fearful by Neil Selwyn (CCK11 live chat) http://t.co/lbUTc9S via @hamtra 2011-02-10T02:25:39

@profesorbaker (Thomas Baker) tweeted: Suifaijohnmak's Weblog #CCK11 Sensemaking in education and learning: http://t.co/29iZMyt 2011-02-10T02:09:54

@CarpTracy (Tracy Carpenter) tweeted: RT @ShellTerrell: via @profesortbaker A Visit From Socrates: Social Media & Education…Reasons 2B Fearful #CCK11 #ELTchat #edchat http://bit.ly/h7fgwu #edchat 2011-02-10T00:50:41

@DolorsCapdet (DolorsCapdet) tweeted: Grabacion de la presentación en #CCK11 de Neil Selwyn Sobre Medios de Comunicación y Educación social. http://bit.ly/gCyfKj 2011-02-10T00:47:57

@rosariocacao (Rosário Cação) tweeted: Social Media & Education - Reasons to be Fearful by Neil Selwyn (CCK11 live chat) http://bit.ly/epT7KT 2011-02-10T00:38:57

@profesortbaker (Thomas Baker) tweeted: A Visit From Socrates: Social Media & Education…Reasons 2B Fearful #CCK11 #ELTchat #edchat http://nblo.gs/e5Upu 2011-02-10T00:26:51

@profesorbaker (Thomas Baker) tweeted: A Visit From Socrates: Social Media & Education…Reasons 2B Fearful #CCK11 #ELTchat #edchat http://nblo.gs/e5Upu 2011-02-10T00:26:31

@ShellTerrell (Shelly S Terrell) tweeted: via @profesortbaker A Visit From Socrates: Social Media & Education…Reasons 2B Fearful #CCK11 #ELTchat #edchat http://bit.ly/h7fgwu #edchat 2011-02-10T00:26:04

@Blog4Edu (Greta Shelly) tweeted: via @profesortbaker A Visit From Socrates: Social Media & Education…Reasons 2B Fearful #CCK11 #ELTchat #edchat http://bit.ly/h7fgwu #edchat 2011-02-10T00:26:04

@profesortbaker (Thomas Baker) tweeted: A Visit From Socrates: Social Media & Education...Reasons 2B Fearful #CCK11 #ELTchat #edchat http://wp.me/pdHW0-k8 2011-02-10T00:26:04

@CCK11Feeds (CCK11 Feeds) tweeted: #CCK11 Phronetic Social Science http://bit.ly/hldTDa: #CCK11 Phronetic Social Science http://bit.ly/hldTDa http://bit.ly/gHxzBN 2011-02-09T23:56:43

@CCK11Feeds (CCK11 Feeds) tweeted: #cck11 what makes connectivism unique? http://bit.ly/gMzlBr: #cck11 what makes connectivism unique? http://bit.l... http://bit.ly/gOKQK4 2011-02-09T23:56:43

@CCK11Feeds (CCK11 Feeds) tweeted: #cck11 Reflexão inicial Teorias da Aprendizagem http://migre.me/3QBXg: #cck11 Reflexão inicial Teorias da Apre... http://bit.ly/evuo9X 2011-02-09T23:56:43

@CCK11Feeds (CCK11 Feeds) tweeted: The #CCK11 Daily is out! http://t.co/ztJM9SE posts by @gsiemens @antoesp @JaapSoft @Downes @mattlingard @JGChesn... http://bit.ly/enfSGk 2011-02-09T23:56:42

@Alltop_Facebook (Alltop Facebook) tweeted: Social Media & Education - Reasons to be Fearful by Neil Selwyn (CCK11 live chat) http://bit.ly/g4LBIi 2011-02-09T23:30:10

@csantos (Carlos Santos) tweeted: Terminei a longa leitura do enq. teórico "Playful connectivism: game design on the social web. Muito bom! 2011-02-09T23:21:28

@francesbell (Frances Bell) tweeted: #CCK11 Phronetic Social Science http://bit.ly/hldTDa 2011-02-09T23:15:06

@Tatiawa (Tatiana M. Codreanu) tweeted: RT @gsiemens: Recording from Neil Selwyn's presentation on social media and education: http://bit.ly/fjbKVi #cck11 2011-02-09T22:44:49

@elearningPosts (eLearning Learning) tweeted: Social Media & Education - Reasons to be Fearful by Neil Selwyn (CCK11 live chat) http://bit.ly/g4LBIi 2011-02-09T22:42:22

@JaapSoft (Jaap Bosman) tweeted: #cck11 what makes connectivism unique? http://bit.ly/gMzlBr 2011-02-09T22:26:44

@TheKnowledgeGuy (The Knowledge Guy) tweeted: Neil Selwyn (LKL) Says Social Media in #Education is Exciting , but Caution is Needed; Interview: http://bit.ly/ezLMM0 2011-02-09T22:22:58

@r20_blogroll (Ryan's blogroll) tweeted: eLLearning: Social Media & Education - Reasons to be Fearful by Neil Selwyn (CCK11 live chat): Social media and ... http://bit.ly/hSkmun 2011-02-09T22:15:26

@jgustin (jgustin) tweeted: #misdtcea connectivism is when learning is constructed with a social network. 2011-02-09T21:52:35

@thbeth (thbeth) tweeted: #cck11 Reflexão inicial Teorias da Aprendizagem http://migre.me/3QBXg 2011-02-09T21:49:05

@profesorbaker (Thomas Baker) tweeted: The #CCK11 Daily is out! http://t.co/ztJM9SE posts by @gsiemens @antoesp @JaapSoft @Downes @mattlingard @JGChesney @profesortbaker @hamtra 2011-02-09T21:41:28

@VanessaVaile (VanessaVaile) tweeted: The #CCK11 Daily is out! http://bit.ly/e4FAOy ▸ Top stories today via @jgchesney @agentjohnson @vanessavaile @antoesp 2011-02-09T21:24:40

@andycoverdale (Andy Coverdale) tweeted: RT @gsiemens Recording from @Neil_Selwyn's presentation on social media and education: http://bit.ly/fjbKVi #cck11 2011-02-09T18:55:14

@cpjobling (Chris Jobling) tweeted: RT @gsiemens: Recording from Neil Selwyn's presentation on social media and education: http://bit.ly/fjbKVi #cck11 2011-02-09T18:55:00

@cpjobling (Chris Jobling) tweeted: RT @JGChesney: Chat Transcript from Week4 of #CCK11: Although I haven't had time to be more engaged in #CCK11 the past three we... http://bit.ly/fdvgxC 2011-02-09T18:54:54

@JGChesney (Jennifer G. Chesney) tweeted: Chat Transcript from Week4 of #CCK11: Although I haven't had time to be more engaged in #CCK11 the past three we... http://bit.ly/fdvgxC 2011-02-09T18:53:48

@gsiemens (George Siemens) tweeted: Recording from Neil Selwyn's presentation on social media and education: http://bit.ly/fjbKVi #cck11 2011-02-09T18:49:30

@hamtra (Tracy Parish) tweeted: New blog posting: Social Media & Education - Reasons to be Fearful by Neil Selwyn (CCK11 live chat) - http://bit.ly/ifFHne 2011-02-09T18:33:48

@ryantracey (Ryan Tracey) tweeted: RT @Downes: The MP3 audio recording of today's #CCK11 session is now available. http://cck11.mooc.ca/post/54816 2011-02-09T20:59:38

@evmaiden (Emory Maiden) tweeted: RT @Downes: The MP3 audio recording of today's #CCK11 session is now available. http://cck11.mooc.ca/post/54816 2011-02-09T20:53:21

@Downes (Downes) tweeted: The MP3 audio recording of today's #CCK11 session is now available. http://cck11.mooc.ca/post/54816 2011-02-09T20:51:24

@sifowler (Simon Fowler) tweeted: Worth an hour of your time. RT @gsiemens Recording from Neil Selwyn's presentation on social media & education: http://bit.ly/fjbKVi #cck11 2011-02-09T20:26:22